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but at this point, don, it's a negotiation, and i think the committee will do whatever they can to get that testimony out of cipollone. >> john, you've been saying on this program and to anyone who will listen that you think it's critical cipollone testifies publicly like you did. are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? >> i think he's got to appear in a more public manner, and i don't think there's any privileges in that area they're focusing on. we've ...

are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? >> i think he's got to appear in a more public manner, and i don't think there's any privileges in that public area they're focusing on. we've already had courts look at the issue. there's no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what's to say that he's ever ...

what happens next. then, more states take action on abortion, after the supreme court decision, with democrats pushing the president to do something more, as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening, i'm alicia menendez, in for stephanie ruhle. after days a very public invitations to come talk, the january 6th committee tonight has issued a formal subpoena for pets to pallone. the move comes just one day after that devastating testimony from cassidy hutchinson, who -- the former trump white house counsel's actions ahead of him during the insurrection. in a st...

have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. earlier this evening, committee member adam schiff had this message for cipollone. >> he ought to show just a small portion of the courage that cassidy hutchinson displayed. he needs to come out of hiding. he needs to do his patriotic duty. >> as we mentioned, cipollone was prominently featured in yesterday's testimony. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. please kee...

6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> we'll have much more on her testimony in just a moment. back here in madrid, multiple developments this morning on the first day of the nato summit. president biden, he's participating in several meetings with nato allies including a highly anticipated sit-down with the turkish president next hour. so far, the alliance has announced a significant strengthening of forces along the eastern flank. formally invited finland and sweden to become members after overcoming turkey's oppositi...