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the two black boxes, but they're two boxes encased in an orange aluminum shell, so the investigators can find them, even in a fire situation. >> greg feith, do appreciate your time. the pilots are on set with me here. dan rose, aviation expert, military pilot, an attorney as well, and captain bun, 40 years of pilot. thank you both for sticking around with me. we found out a few hours ago, and i didn't know this, that the black boxes are actually orange, apparently. i did not know that. i assume, obviously, that you did. >> we knew that. >> dan, let's pick up where we left off here a few minutes ago. pilots who are landing planes on runways like that, you were talking a little bit about the technology that exists in the cockpit now, and we know that a lot of flying is very much automated, auto pilot, for instance, we're all familiar with that concept.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130707:02:12:00

greg pointed out, is right there with the ntsb from the get-go. they have a go-team, just like the ntsb does, and when one of their planes go down, they have the team that goes out there and investigates or helps the ntsb investigate. >> captain bun, we have -- you've been with me here for several hours. we've spent a fair amount of time looking at the tail of this plane, what's left of the tail of this plane, and based on what we've seen and based on the eyewitness accounts that we've heard on our air, it sounds as if this plane was, obviously, way too low to land when it came in, does it not? >> absolutely. earlier, we were just talking about on the carrier, coming down with your tail hook just 12 feet or so above the deck. when you come across the end of the runway, not the overrun, not the safety area, but over the very end of the runway that

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:22:57:00

or ceased to operate during critical portions of the flight. so hopefully we've got data all the way down to impact. if we do, then, yes, the ntsb, the faa, and basically us, as the general public, should have a general idea of what caused this accident early on, even though the board will take 12 to 18 months to really come up with their final findings and a probable cause. >> greg and tom, if you could stand by, and captain bun. we're going to play about 30 or 40 seconds here of the air traffic control, some of the air traffic control traffic, after the crash. let's listen in and talk about what we might be able to get out of this on the other side. let's play the tapes, guys. >> this is 85. we see people exiting. they seem to be alive and walking around. >> 885 roger. >> people are just walking outside the airplane right now. >> yes. some people it looks like on the runway.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:22:41:00

we expect to hear from the mayor of san francisco. also the san francisco fire chief as well. at this point, hopefully, we're hoping at least that we get some precise numbers on how many folks were aboard what's left of the plane you see there, the number of casualties, number of injuries as well. but, again, you are looking at what's left of asiana flight 214 bound for san francisco from seoul, south korea. captain tom bun is in the studio with me now. captain bun spent 40 years as a pilot. he flew 747s, 767s. and, captain, i understand you said you got out of the game, you got out of the business before the 777 came around. >> yeah. that was about the time i left. >> but as you watch -- as you have watched these events unfold over the past few hours, and you look at what appears to be -- again, what appears to be at

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:23:09:00

francisco? >> yeah. that's pretty much the standard protocol. they'll gather all of this -- all of the debris and remains of this aircraft, and they'll put it in a local hangar. they'll find one from somebody. and then preferably they'd like to be as close to the airport as they can. just one other point. we often talk about chairman debbie hersman. she prefers to be called chairman. yes, she's a woman, but she prefers to be called chairman of the ntsb. so we fulfill her wishes on that. >> yes. chairman debbie hersman headed to san francisco with a team of investigators. captain bun, you alluded to something earlier and i want you to expound on that if you could. when a pilot is approaching a runway, when a pilot is landing and there's a co-pilot sitting next to him, what is the division of labor? >> well, one person flies the plane. the other person does the radio work. but constantly crosscheck.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:22:47:00

of about 700 to 800 feet per minute. that's what the airplane will seth in settle in at. if they got into an excessive sink rate, that makes it hashder for the crew to arrest it at very low laltitudes. and in this case, they'll be looking to see if they tried to stop it and they couldn't. >> what would cause a plane to go into this excessive sink rate that he was talking about? >> the plane flying too slow. but the question is, flying too slow. i can think of only a couple of things. either the pilot is not doing his job or the engines were not producing power, couldn't get engine power that he wanted. both seem so out of -- out of the realm of possibility, but it has to be one of those. >> captain bun and greg, i want you to both stand by for me if i can. i want to bring in corrine gaines with the u.s. coast guard. corin, are you there?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:23:28:00

investigation involving many, many people here. >> of the 48 people who were initially transported to the hospital, by the way, folks, 26 of them were taken to san francisco hospitals. 22 were taken to san mateo hospitals. 190 folks apparently went into the airport. they got off the plane, went into the airport. 82 of those 190 were also later taken to a local hospital. so 130 total. 130 have been taken to hospitals. and, again, upwards of -- language is important here, so i want to make sure we get this right. upwards of approximately 60 unaccounted for. captain bun, i want to bring you back in here. tom costello will stand by for us in washington. tom bun, 40 years a pilot. as you told me when you sat down, you never flew the boeing 777 because they came out after you got out of the business. but you did fly the boeing 747 and the boeing 767.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130706:23:01:00

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