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I'm not some incredible sleuth that's like hacked this somewhe somewhere. somebody wanted me to have this. and that also tells us something. that tells us that people inside the government, people who have access to intelligence documents like this, they want this to be known. they want it on tv. they want this out so no matter what the administration says about what they're doing and why we can see what the career intelligence people actually think about what this government is doing before presumably they submarine this stuff. i know there's a lot going on. we're going to be talking about th...

Maybe that's because the rationale for the ban is falling apart, even from inside their own government. joining me is the deputy director of the immigrants rights project at the alcu. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you got a chance to look at this. >> i have. >> i know you haven't had a lot of time with it. are you surprised to hear this argument from career intelligence officials? >> i am and i am not. we went into court and we had declarations from former intelligence people, high-ranking in both administrations saying, look, this is not going to make us safer. in fact...

When the president will sign a new version of that ban. maybe that's because the rationale for the ban is falling apart, even from inside their own government. joining me is the deputy director of the immigrants rights project at the alcu. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you got a chance to look at this. >> i have. >> i know you haven't had a lot of time with it. are you surprised to hear this argument from career intelligence officials? >> i am and i am not. we went into court and we had declarations from former intelligence people, high-ranking in both administrations s...

General flynn communicated with the russian ambassador, this was under the purview of the fbi and the national counterintelligence officers who were there to monitor the communications of our enemies within the united states and possibly any american citizen who decides they want to talk to the russians for defecting or something along that lines. >> so this is sort of like spy guard. >> yeah, it is spy guard and general flynn should have known that unforced monitoring is a fact of life for anyone who gives consent to use any u.s. government telephone systems or an employee of the united state...

General flynn should have known that unforced monitoring is a fact of life for anyone who gives consent to use any u.s. government telephone systems or an employee of the united states government. this happens all the time. >> and that's to me part of what's so remarkable about this is this conversation would happen, they would lie about it, and then according to one report lie about it to the fbi even though this career intelligence professional had to have known the call w intercepted, right? >> this is just sheer arrogance on his part. it's a good example of the mind set the administration ...