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>> deray you wanted to speak to stephen's point that it's too expensive and that officers are not discriminating. >> to get to a consent decree there has to have been a proving of a pattern of practice. it's like police officers, you can't pistol whip people. if the officers were not doing it, there wouldn't be a need for it. we've seen it in cleveland and cities across the country. it's sort of laughable to hear a police union official sort of say there is no proof of it. the only way we got to a consent decree is due to mountains of evidence that the doj produced. people in communities have ...

Unsuccessful over the years. and it is the strong view of residents of baltimore city that federal intervention is warranted and necessary in this particular case. >> right. right. this has always been the big question, which is when the feds come in, does it help. de ray, listen to a simplification of the issues that came up on bill marr. >> what jeff sessions has said, he has never been a fan of these, is that they're essentially walking away from them. and the irony here is that the departmentf juice is saying that they're not invested in police rorm. meanwhile, the police departments thems...

And the people that call us don't care what package we come into. so those are other people's agendas. and it's just not reality out on the street. it's very, very telling to me when now all of a sudden we have all these mayors and police commissioners and police chiefs embracing these department of justice oversight. obama's department of justice oversight, which is very, very dangerous and very, very costly. the city of cleveland, it will cost us $7 million to pay the monitors to the -- if the department of justice wants to come in and demand reform, then the department of justice should pay...

Mismanaged the police departments across this country for decades. they've reduced budgets. 17 years in a row in the city of cleveland. they reduced spending. we don't have the cars. we don't have the computers in the cars. we want to go to training. i'll go to as much training as you can. if you put two police cars in every zone in the city of cleveland, we will have and we will get back to community engaged policing, which is what we all want. so those are -- >> sir, now i'm going to pause. i have to manage. monique, i wanted to bring you back in. speak to stephen's point that, a, this is to...