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This person because he wasn't semi important politician from kansas city, harry truman. he was the president of the united states. now you've got this businessman from new york who has habit ated to saying things in a certain way, but now it's coming out with the full force of the american presidency. he's got to recognize that. >> do you worry, general, you have this specter of parts of the government, people will look at it, jim chap per or brennan as cia director and say, oh, these are obama holdovers? this is incorrect because they've served republican and democratic presidents. do you wor...

The george washington university center. he's a former cia counter terrorism analyst and joins us from washington. sir, thank you. >> how are you doing? >> shepard: are we close to being finished here? >> we're getting close. as you said, they've been fighting almost a good part of the year. now it's extremely hot in iraq and the middle east. people are getting tired of fighting all the time. in terms of destroying isis, the ideology or the organization, we're far from the end chap per, this is an organization that has been brutalized by the united states, by the iraqis, the iranians and they ...

>> when we finished our part of the private tour we walked into the room and there was a stage and i was not prepared to speak. i didn't know what i was going to say. i got in front of them and i talked to them. i didn't know what they expected to hear. i told them the story and i told them about osama bin laden dying. just to see their reaction and to talk to them after. >> i want to thank you on behalf of all of the family members. >> to have this them tell me you didn't close a chap per, but you closed the book on what happened to me. i am not afraid now because i

Pushed him and fallen into the ravine. prosecutors said the entire time they never thought it was an accident. >> the message will send a message and you kill someone, subject to federal jurisdiction, you will be prosecuted swiftly and severely punished for your crime. >> reporter: friends have said that the couple never had any violent encounters but they also said graham became very depond dent about the marriage. in the end she pleaded guilty to second-degree murder. she was facing life in prison, jenna but she got 30 years. jenna: well, the latest chap per, maybe the final chapter, we'll s...

You mentioned the drone campaign. that's been a very up critical part of this global war on terror. going into somalia, dealing with high value targets in yemen, again, kinds of goes back to that point we were talking about in terms of how al qaeda has dissipated moved off to different areas. so you have to where possible, you have to chase them down and deal with it, but it does take an administration willing to say yes, this is what we're going to do. >> i want to unpack that piece of it, what the administration is willing to do. david corn, you have a book that details a lot of the decision...