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Character. i don't think that the biggest threat to american children is some drag queen thing. >> yep. >> we've got american kids going to bed hungry. we've got american kids who don't know what's going to happen to them tomorrow. but you pick on something, and you take their pain, and you use that for your own benefit, it's a character issue for him, and i think it's wrong. >> if ron desantis were worried about the safety of young children in the state of florida, he would not be making it easier to do permitless carrying. instead he is focusing on things that are going to divide this countr...

Thought we had a result as a nation. whether we teach black history, weather -- near existence of lgbtq+ people, and it's really difficult for suburban voters who i think republican party is get a need to court aggressively in the general election. >> dry clean story hour doesn't happen. it's not a big thing. but to the extent that it comes. up there are a lot of parents who may not be republican, or whatever who might be uncomfortable with. that is a smart issue to pickett? in other words, he was a democrat are put in a position defending why six-year-old should go to drag queens. >> it's a c...

Place, not a place that congress used to go in the past. and i think it's, you know, worth discussing whether that's good for the country. >> i think mccarthy will continue to try to argue that all he's doing is going by the precedent set by democrats in the last congress but there is a very clear distinction between removing members from a committee or refusing to allow them to sit on a committee because you have some political or ideological differences, you know, objections that have to do with politics and ideology versus doing this because somebody has a real ethical or character issue. l...

What he did for the credit for his when is he not only focus in on his home base in atlanta, where he pastors and is, centered he went to rural, georgia, he talked to white, rural, georgians. who may have had some neighbors who might not have wanted to talk to him because of his race. but he went into territories in georgia that herschel walker was walking, and let's talk about this too. character. the character issue. we did not bring that up. i was in atlanta twice over the last month and a half. with my book tour. and i couldn't even leave the room for watching those nasty attack ads. and t...

The whole package. >> right, i had him on a radio show yesterday. give a very robust defense of the things that the administration did. his focus -- on the full autobiography from when he was a kid. but there is whole sections on defending what they did. i think it comes down to a character issue. he is a man of deep faith. i think after january 6th he couldn't sustain some sort of lie that the election was stolen 2020. that began a pretty strong diversion to trump on character issues. >> eric, i mean, do you think mike pence would have a shot? >> you know, i think if people want, if they want...