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From the pittsburgh synagogue on. it is ridiculous that in the united states senate, we can't have a committee to sit down and find out exactly the damage that facebook is doing on an hourly basis in this country. >> you know, it is unfortunate. facebook has pretty much become a sovereign nation within a sovereign nation. pretty much untouchable not only in the united states but around the globe. we're seeing the same problem over and over. it's impacting our elections. it's impacting our health care system. it is allowing for misinformation to cause harm. it is creating spaces where groups wi...

And competitors, how the company does choose algorithms that are proprietary and competitive to them. this is researchers being able to see how companies function, like facebook, and they're able to spread harmful content. so i do think it's a level of conversation that is substantial and gets much more to the heart of the problems that facebook poses. so that felt very new to me and encouraging, frankly. >> the book is "an ugly truth, inside facebook's battle for domination." cecelia kang, thank you for coming on the show this morning. we'll be covering this a lot more throughout the show tod...

It is so distressing. don't really know, peter baker, how to break through on this. but the misinformation, we've seen it spread with covid. before that, we saw it spread with masks. before that, we saw it spread with a pandemic. we saw it spread during lies of the political campaign. >> january 6th. >> we saw it spread on january 6. we saw actually facebook being used to actually help organize the january 6th riots. the testimony that we're seeing on the hill really does seem to be like the tip of the iceberg. it's not just in the united states, where these anti-democratic forces are taking h...

Things other than economics. i think democrats have made the mistake for some time saying, let's just look at how people are doing economically. they ignore the cultural components. they ignore the resentment. they ignore the elite on the other side. in the gap is where politicians like donald trump go in. in great britain, boris johnson. they just sweep up thousands and thousands of votes in factory towns that used liberals. now they go for conservatives. >> joe, there is a way in which we've exploited our fears, the sense of alienation, the sense of resentment. there's a way that this connec...

Ms. haugen said. which is the core of the problem is the systems. it is a beating heart problem where the systems, the algorithms, promote the most engaging and the most agitating content, which often can be very harmful content. >> cecelia, it is pretty incredible. we just showed mike pence talking about the january 6th riots. the seditious riots against the united states of america. they were trying to hang him. his only defense was, it's the media's fault. mark zuckerberg, in responding to facebook's own internal documents and the reporting of it, what does he do? he doesn't talk about thei...