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Interesting. the democrats who were debating have a huge charisma gap with donald trump. they're not interesting at all. they come across as either scolding or boring. i mean, bernie sanders has passed his sell by date, and elizabeth warren just knows how to wag her finger. it's not interesting. they're going to have a lot of trouble going toe to toe with trump because they can't keep up with his charisma. howard: kathy, i did think there were some interesting questions on the panel, but basically we learned -- and this was the lowest rated debate of the season -- that the candidates favor day...

Expect because people had a chance to see and listen to you and get a sense of who you stood for and who you were fighting for. >> kasie hunt, you covered the clinton campaign. did you see a lack of what the president was talking about there? >> reporter: yeah, look, one of the things she came under criticism for was she did not work as hard as donald trump was, and he was in the states a lot more than she was in the final days, and clinton acknowledged there was a certain charisma gap between as a politician where she was and where barack obama was, as far as skill and being good at it, and t...

Off than you were four years ago? he's going to have to savagely attack mitt romney. we seen the start of that this week. >> that is grover norquist's pick for vp speaking right there. i don't know. that guy versus joe biden for a debate. >> that says a lot that he's grover norquist's favorite candidate. bobby jindal gives them the diversity because he's not a boring white guy, as we say. he's from a state they've already got. his big issue is drilling and school vouchers. i don't think that that's necessarily great selling point nationwide. and he's not that articulate or at least he's not th...

Ago? he's going to have to savagely attack mitt romney. we seen the start of that this week. >> that is grover norquist's pick for vp speaking right there. i don't know. that guy versus joe biden for a debate. >> that says a lot that he's grover norquist's favorite candidate. bobby jindal gives them the diversity because he's not a boring white guy, as we say. he's from a state they've already got. his big issue is drilling and school vouchers. i don't think that that's necessarily great selling point nationwide. and he's not that articulate or at least he's not that charismatic, let's just sa...

Very enthusiastic about the president, there has been a lot of disappointment that he hasn't moved for gay marriage. this could be very helpful for the campaign. >> admittedly, george clooney is no ted nugent but republicans are continuing to smear the president as a hollow celebrity. as we saw with that ad produced by american cross roads. but that's inevitable, is it not? they have to attack the president because their own candidate has about as much charisma as a stem of wilting asparagus, doesn't he? >> we're talking about a very clear charisma gap here. talk about enthusiasm. charisma fac...