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Who got the better of that in your view, ryan or biden? >> perhaps joe biden did merely because he would not allow paul ryan to explain himself fully. but the interesting thing is when they got on to something like afghanistan, if you listen closely, basically what joe biden was saying was that our intention was to get out. both of iraq and of afghanistan. and he was not going to let anything stand in the way of that argument. >> doesn't that resonate with the american mood right now which is lets not undertake any morph these adventures? >> i thought there was such a missed opportunity for po...

But the benghazi story is a piece of the administration's larger strategy, which is so long as we have an election on, the rest of the world may as well not exist. iran doesn't exist, syria doesn't exist, the syria rebuffs from russia don't exist and a terrorist attack in benghazi sure as heck doesn't exist until it becomes a problem for us. >> where is secretary of state clinton in this? she's out of the picture. >> look for the next job or keeping a low profile. they put out susan rice, who is a leading candidate for that job if obama wins a second term. >> u.s. ambassador? >> she went on th...

Who got the better of that in your view, ryan or biden? >> perhaps joe biden did merely because he would not allow paul ryan to explain himself fully. but the interesting thing is when they got on to something like afghanistan, if you listen closely, basically what joe biden was saying was that our intention was to get out. both of iraq and of afghanistan. and he was not going to let anything stand in the way of that argument. >> doesn't that resonate with the american mood right now which is lets not undertake any morph these adventures? >> i thought there was such a missed opportunity for po...

>> and when we got the extra semi and we've got surprises coming down, our economy has stayed in particularly, the super economy stayed afloat. one thing we have to do is keep upping the supply. demand is falling down because we're having smaller cars and semi is the key thing and anybody 0 doesn't recognize it, for the first time in the united states we have more oil in the world than less, as long as we have nor oil than supply it will stay down. >> jonas, what do you say to people, gosh, we don't need to drill for more supply and playing devil's advocate because the market circumstances is ...

Last fall, dateline nbc began following three middle class families as they confronted poverty for the first time. here is part of lester holt's interview with one of those families. >> looking at the unemployment check here and looking at the bills here, and this check doesn't add up to these bills. he's got to find a job. >> needing every penny for rent, joyce puts on a brave face and heads to the sister carmen food pantry. >> i can make banana bread. that's not too bad for my kids. >> to make the experience more dignified for its clients, sister carmen designed the space to mimic a supermar...