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Discovered it. >> that would be called like checking references or looking into the person to make sure it's the person you want to hire. >> yeah, correct, they did not look past her job at louisville. >> so you were -- what you were just like hanging out and you could either go easter egg hunting with the family or say, hey, i'm going to check on this athletic director. that didn't happen. did you get a tip? >> in today's story that i wrote today, the co-chair of the search committee said three days before the hiring was announced, she went on google and did page searches and did not find ten...

50% trust. that isn't normal because they're always trying to sort of figure each other out. think the nature of the success of great partnership is when you go into it with an internet -- in tell length -- a rigor, a rigor that you want too challenge each other, a rigor that says what can you add to the business every day? >> you know, guy, you're in business with your wife, brian and i'm in business with my brother. i trust in him infinitely and he in me. what can do you to protect yourself? >> well, i think in many regards, protection is somewhat of an illusion. it's all about doing the due...

I think the nature of the success of a great partnership is when you go into with it a rigor, a rigor you want to challenge each other. a rigor that says what can you add every day to the business. >> guy, you're in business with your wife, brian, i'm in business with my brother. i trust him. he me. if you're going into business with someone who you know well but not that well what can do you from text yourself? >> well, i think in many regards protection is somewhat of an illusion. it's all about doing the due diligence and doing the investigation and trusting your gut at the front end. it's ...

Actually protect themselves and the people who depend on them by rooting out abusers and adopting policies to prevent abuse. and that isn't what happened here apparently. you can see the fallout as a result. jon: your group advocates that people in positions of trust or authority should be screened. background checks done. if there had been such a check done on this guy sandusky would it have shown anything unusual? >> background checks are just one part of it and it's really about talking with people about checking references, about following up on hunches. listen when people mention that som...