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Leandra kruger. and judge michelle childs. and there's also cherilyn eiffel. we haven't had a civil rights lawyer on the board since thurgood marshal. >> professor, if you had the ear of the president, if you were advising him on this pick of the aforementioned, who would melissa murray endorse? >> all of these women are fantastic. i know many of them personally and i can't choose. this is an abundance of riches and it's absolutely wonderful the president has this array of

Would not may any recommendations and draw any conclusions? et it seems to pretty clearly in this draft draw the conclusion that most reperforms to the supreme court are unwise and unwarranted. the report is very sour on the idea of court expansion, luke-warm on the idea of term limits passed by statute. pretty dubious about the idea of limiting the court's power over democratically enacted legislation. this is a report that essentially says, everything is more or less fine now. let's not tinker with it and ruin destroying the whole system. >> what are the arguments, then, for expanding the co...

The draft report saying, look, you're saying you're not drawing conclusions but so sour on court expansion it's clearly one-sided. there's a real chance members like cherilyn eiffel may push back and ultimately force the commission to force a report that is neutral, pick both sides of the arguments more fairly. end of the day, i really doubt there will be any truly favorable unqualified language for one single reform. again, the members of this commission are very much institutionalists. none of them have publicly advocated for something like court expanse in the past, and it seems like vast m...

To me, the lesson of the kkk act is that white supremacy as a force can never be eradicated permanently, but with the will of the state violent terror can be vanquished and our government's job, our president's job, our nation's job is to vanquish it. i want to talk to someone who spent her adult life fighting against hatred, renowned civil rights attorney cherilyn eiffel, and with the naacp legal defense fund. >> i think of you as the civil rights attorney and when you hear the discussion about white supremacist terrorism, you see these arrest, what are you thinking about the kind of policy r...

Much. >> what would you say your position today is on a woman's right to choose? >> as a judge. >> as a judge. >> as a judge it is an important precedent of the supreme court. by it, i mean roe v. wade and planned parenthood versus casey, it's been reaffirmed many times. casey is precedent on precedent. >> precedent on precedent. i am joined by people who know their way around precedents, sharon eiffel, elise hope, and my favorite legal eagle npr's nina totenberg who is still covering the hearing there at ground zero. my thanks to all of you. cherilyn, off the top, did judge kavanaugh help or ...