Thought there was fraud in the u.s. election. as president i thought there was fraud. >> exactly. >> there wasn't. he was told there wasn't. there's been no proof that it was. if a judge were to say this were under color of such office, wouldn't that be leaning towards his theory of the case, trump's theory of the case? >> absolutely. not only is this a procedural argument, get me over to federal court but it's also the core of his defense. i was doing my job, i thought i was doing my job, i was following what my advisers told me. very much in tension with the alleged facts but that will be th...