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Rick tyler and lexi mccannen back with me. rick, we should know neither biden nor o'rourke are officially in the race so what's the thinking behind these early endorsements? >> look, the early endorsements? >> the democratic party is positioned where, i'm not a democrat, but my observation is they need a candidate to bring out the base, but not a base candidate and win over enough skeptical republicans and independents to beat donald trump. part of that message is going to be winning over the voters in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania who voted for donald trump and their chief message is j...

Especially with occupy and the different tone we see in american politics that we see today and tspeed of information. >> you are right, that is why his chief message is not just his business experience but optimism. he sees theç ads from presiden obama that say we have to work harder, we are all in it together, change takes time. he sees those as messages of pessimism. >> it is the reagan example. >> very much so. >> and hoping he can ride that optimism and not be specific about, in trying not to engage really with some of the specific criticisms. >> absolutely right. he will be what we saw...