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Government isn't getting the job done. you have to expect that the states are going to take action. they're tax strapped for one thing. they've got to deal with budgetary issues, this is one of the places that's hitting them. martha: chris, the administration says they have, in fact, been on top of it and that the situation along the border in their mind, as we know, has been talked about a lot, napolitano says it's better than ever. christopher, i assume you would agree with that. >> yeah, i mean, there are more boots on the ground and more electronic devices patrolling the border than ever b...

And good but we've been waiting for this direction from the federal government for a long, long time and it hasn't come. >> yeah, it hasn't come. it's been decades in the making. i mean, this is a catastrophe that both parties share the blame for. but this administration is now in power, and the reality is chris talks about the state -- states spending money frivolously. they're spending money frivolously in the court system, school system, in the hospitals, on people here not legally and chris, the first victims of criminal illegal aliens and all of the problems that are associated with it ar...

Passed their own immigration laws, needs to be a federal issue. chris blant joins me and christopher han, former aide to senator chuck schumer and democratic strategist. good to have you here, thank you for being with us. chris, let me start with you. it seems to be a bit at odds, the president saying this has to be a comprehensive federal program, yet it appears that that's not happening. >> well, yeah, that's right. you know, the states are being forced to act because the federal government's techlessness on this issue and paralysis on this issue, and it didn't begin in all fairness with the...

Montgomery county, has rolled out the welcome mat, their costs have gone up, their crime rates have gone up, burden to schools, and court systems -- >> martha: that's a good example, a case study of what's going on in maryland. chris, we're going to have to leave it there but i thank you and my apologies to christopher han. we've been having signal problems and we lost him so he's not there to rebutt your last statement, chris plante. thanks to christopher han, we'll talk more to him next time and interesting debate, that's not one that's going away, that's for sure. coming up right here, an...