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cooperate. >> we've had discussions with him about potentially appearing before them, trying to make sure we understand what it is they're asking for. as i always did when i was in service to america, i'm happy to cooperate with things that are fair and transparent and deliver good outcomes to the american people. >> we've learned the committee has already spoken to treasury secretary steve mnuchin. both pompeo and mnuchin discussed using the 25th amendment to remove trump from office. and trump's former chief of staff, mick mulvaney, testified before the committee just yesterday aft...

We had a strong bipartisan support for this bill, and at the 11th hour senator toomey decides that he wants to rewrite the bill, change the rules, and tank it. >> this is an embarrassment to the senate, to the country, to the founders, and all that they professed to hold dear. and if this is america first, then america is [ bleep ]. >> joining me jake sherman co-founder of punch bowl news and msnbc political contributor. juanita tolliver is an msnbc political analyst. this vote, jake, was supposed to be procedural, basically it was done. walk us through your reporting on what changed and how. ...

One who tried to overthrow elections and no one who tried to use elector fraud past december 14th when the electoral college vote was over and people were still doing it -- if none of those political,lease are held accountable -- elites are held accountable and they are charged legally, and you're dealing with pawns, are we courting more disaster in the future of american democracy. that's what we're going to look at. >> wow, that's a lot. first of all, i usually watch you because i love the legal aspect of your show. i love your guests, and i have dinner with you more nights than i should pro...

Logistics, we need to have public health have the ability to move quickly. that means not only having vaccines but getting them in arms, having the testing available widespread. right now we only have testing available in limited terms for people who really meet these high-risk categories. we don't have enough testing that's widely available to understand how widespread this virus really is. >> councilman, you were telling me you're on vacation, your phone is blowing up and you were quoted in that the "new york times" piece as talking about hard-hit neighborhoods like the ones you represent, c...