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and it s all on the record. but what exactly did the panel learn? does donald trump have a lot more to be worried about tonight? mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a whole variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses, and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. so, i think it was a, you know, a grueling day for all involved. mr. cipollone and the staff and the members. but it was well worth it. well worth it, says committee zoe lofgren on cnn earlier tonight. she did not get into specifics, but she thought cipollone was candid with the panel today and believes that his answers were, quote, honest. congresswoman lofgren did note, quote, some complications when it came to attorney/client privilege belonging to trump. but she said executive privilege was not an issue because the holder of that privilege is in fact president biden. in another interview, she said the former white ....
learn? does donald trump have a lot more to be worried about tonight? mr. cipollone did appear voluntarily and answer a whole variety of questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses, and i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. so, i think it was, you know, a grueling day for all involved, mr. cipollone and the staff and the members. but it was well worth it. well worth it, says committee zoe lofgren on cnn earlier tonight. she did not get into specifics, but she thought cipollone was candid with the panel today and believes that his answers were, quote, honest. congresswoman lofgren did note, quote, some complications when it came to attorney/client privilege belonging to trump. but she said executive privilege was not an issue because the holder of that privilege is in fact president biden. in another interview, she said the former white house counsel never pleaded the fifth. so, what does that me ....
that john eastman continued his hunt for widespread voter fraud even after president biden was inaugurated. hours after president biden s inauguration, mr. eastman emailed rudy giuliani, donald j. trump s personal lawyer propose that they challenge in georgia for two senate seats that were won by democrats. according to the times eastman hoped that by trying to overturn another election and finding fraud in that race he would find proof that the 2020 election was stolen, but as we all know, was there no fraud. the election wasn t stolen and the big lie is still just that, a lie. the times also reports that eastman charged the trump campaign $270,000 and no surprise, given trump s long history of not paying his bills, it looks like trump never paid him. by the time mr. biden became president mr. eastman tried to be paid directly although two people with knowledge of the campaign s finances said he never was. john eastman has been under a lot of scrutiny from the justice ....
Joining us again. how important do you think this testimony was today? what does it tell you that it took as long as as it did? and clearly congresswoman lofgren was pretty high on what they learned. so, he gave an interview for five hours some time ago. so, a lot of that is just confirming on this record what he had said during the interview prior to this. so, we had another two hours. and what was done during that what was accomplished during those two hours? we don t know. we re going to learn very soon. but i imagine a lot of it was corroborating what had been said by prior witnesses about what cipollone heard, the advise cipollone gave, and some of the things that went on in the days leading up to january 6th. so, i know there s obviously been a lot of focus on cassidy hutchinson s blockbuster testimony. but we should remind people liz cheney looked into the camera and told cipollone she wanted to hear more from him before we as ....
Jim schultz worked in the trump white house counsel s office before cipollone arrived, and he joins us now with some valuable insights. jim, thank you so much for joining us again. how important do you think this testimony was today? what does it tell you that it took as long as as it did? and clearly congresswoman lofgren was pretty high on what they learned. so, he gave an interview for five hours some time ago. so, a lot of that is just confirming on this record what he had said during the interview prior to this. so, we had another two hours. and what was done during that what was accomplished during those two hours? we don t know. we re going to learn very soon. but i imagine a lot of it was corroborating what had been said by prior witnesses about what cipollone heard, the advice cipollone gave, and some of the things that went on in the days leading up to january 6th. so, i know there s obviously been a lot of focus on cassidy hutchinson s blockbuster testimony. but we sho ....