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Quickening? do you feel a comfort level? >> well, certainly there is nothing normal about this process and i don't know that there is much in the normal -- >> this feels totally normal to me. >> right. exactly. >> i only exist on tv, so -- >> exactly, right? >> yes. >> people come up and hug you as if you're their brother. you are in a way. virtual brother. so obviously there is nothing normal about the process. so there is a learning curve, there's no question. i have to tell you, i don't know what it says about my personality, but i'm really enjoying this process. i'm enjoying being -- the t...

Candidacy that i -- especially at this phase of the campaign -- will listen as much as i talk. i've been listening to people. and they want to know that they have an option to keep a private plan. and i respect that. you know, listen, i knew i was going to take hits for it. i knew it. but i'd much prefer to be relevant at the end of this process than to stick to something that i don't believe is the best option and the best way to go for the vast majority of americans. >> do you think democrats who are holding on to medicare for all take away private insurance from everyone, is that a -- polit...

Stand up on a stage with elizabeth warren and will he carry that banner -- >> but it's also -- >> in a way that moderate democrats hope he will. >> i think it's also easy to be too hard on the joe biden or kamala harris. >> right. >> as the front-runners on that stage tonight. i mean, it is very early in this race. >> sure. >> totally. >> obama -- >> sure. >> we're also invested in it. this is such early days. candidates get better. >> yeah. >> kamala -- listen, one thing i know about kamala harris, i've known kamala harris for 20 years. just like obama he struggled in a couple of those first ...

They're going to evaluate. they ask questions. they challenge you. and i am growing in the process. >> do you -- >> i am. and i do feel very strongly, anderson. let me just say, i fully intend to win this election, but for me the metric of our success will also be that at the end of this process we are relevant, and the only way i can ensure that is to make sure i am listening as much if not more than i all talking. >> if the democratic party goes ahead with the message medicare for all and it's not your plan -- medicare for all, taking away ultimately health insurance from 100 million people....

He could take it. i think he certainly did that. that is not the same thing saying joe biden won the debate tonight, joe biden secured his path to the nomination tonight. i still think he's going to have to trudge through this process. there is no doubt about that. but what he did was show up in a way that showed democratic voters he can take it, stand there, dish some back and survive this kind of battle. that was -- after the miami lackluster performance, that was mission critical for him and he did that. i don't know how much he propelled his candidacy as much as kept his ability to stay in...