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will still never understand why he chose a socially distanced rollout. but, to be fair, desantis tried something different. but it was a gamble and he ended up only getting a fraction of the live viewers he would have if he had done a more traditional rollout. media took the opportunity to dunk on the governor because of it. >> this would be like 162 game baseball season and your star pitcher getting the ball and accidently throwing it and hitting himself in the face. >> this is not a normal way to begin. you would ordinarily want to be with normal people. not a billionaire. regular ...

>> horrible news. horrible for joe biden in our new cnn poll while the president leads his democratic competitors by a huge margin, two thirds of all of the american people surveyed, 66% of the public say that a biden victory would either be a setback or a disaster for the united states. >> rachel: how can a guy like that beat anybody in 2024? let's bring in karl rove a former white house deputy chief of staff and fox news cl contributor. karl, great to have you on this evening. how do you rate that rollout byron desantis yesterday? >> well, you know, two things. won, first of all, if you were...