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Charge would happen first. and that could happen in the next several months. and so i think what he's really trying to lay the groundwork for is saying even if i'm charged with obstruction of justice, no big deal. because no one has proven the underlying collusion. >> and some of the questions look hard and look as though mueller might have information that we don't know about. obviously he has a lot of information we don't know about, but some of the questions seem predicated on information we don't know about, such as contacts made by the trump campaign, alleged contacts, including paul mana...

The facts that the white house has acknowledged, isn't that progress and isn't that a -- the right step? >> no. absolutely not. listen, what we know now, thanks to intelligence gathering from the israelis, is that iran has been not just a bad actor, we know they're the largest state sponsor of terror but me completely lied to everyone involved. they have created an illusion that somehow they were woefully behind where they are at this point in time. what the president wants to do is create a new plan potentially if he looks back at current iran deal and decides he wants to get out of this beca...

House deputy press secretary hogan quidly. as always, let me read you this quote from rosenstein and asked about the articles of impeachment drafted against him by members of house and he said, quote, i can tell you there have been people making threats privately and publicly against me more quite sometime and i think they should understand by now the department of justice is not going to be extorted. how do you interpret that remark? do you think he's talking about president trump who has very vocally criticized him? >> well obviously you'll have to ask mr. rosenstein about that. that has not...

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Tact. most of the time -- there are a few people. mcmaster and powell and it -- it seems like to you go in there and your reputation is savaged. >> and you have to remember what drives them. they feel the strong need to serve. and the need to somehow be a stabilizing force inside of the administration. and point them in the right direction. but clearly there are processes and protocol that are supposed to be in place in in white house that are not that are creating the problems and it is going to be a bigger problem in recruiting new people to the administration as some of the turn-over occurs...