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From what it means to really believe women in a court of law not just the court of public opinion to mistaken identity cases when you have a blink moment do something about it. even to my time in the voting rights section, civil rights division, about what the so-called post racial u.s. looks like when you're monitoring elections and the clawing back of voting rights. all of it is in this brand new book and it is time for people to really have a conversation and vicariously experience it and understand with empathy and an eye toward reform what it could mean if the pursuit of justice was final...

>> laura, also tonight we are learning doj is looking into the trump supporters behind the fake 2020 election certificates that would have declared trump the winner in states that he actually lost. there it is up on your screen right there. do you think there is enough evidence here to file criminal charges? >> it is shocking to think people were so prepared to try to undermine certification process and undermine the will of the people. it wasn't just a hypothetical scenario reduced to a memo. there were actually people in position to provide fake, false electors in lieu of those who were actu...

Interfering with elections. it is criminal to try to conduct fraud in elections. of course it is curious here, fraud is a pretext for why you have the clawing back of so many voting rights in this country because of perceptions of fraud. well, if that's the guard rail that needs to be put up some say then what about the guard rails in terms of accountability for those who endeavor to commit an act of fraud? it has to be dealt with. of course it just reminds people over and over again, don, just how close we were as a nation to having a very different scenario had vice president mike pence foll...

Possibility that putin does not move forward from where he is now and what does he get from that if he backs down from this position? >> well, i think that one of the big questions that we have to face right now is what does the off ramp look like for vladimir putin? is it acknowledgment of his takeover of crimea and the donbas region? is it some way the clawing back of the right of ukraine to potentially self-determine to joining of nato in the future? i think that unfortunately we are in a position now where having squandered so many of the opportunities that were there for us to deter this ...

I think the use of the word is not appropriate, period. but i tell you this. one of the things my father always said to me was never delegate your joy, and never delegate any power to somebody to make them believe a single word is something that will reduce you to something less than you are. they can wield up and i'm not fine when i hear it, don't get me wrong, but the idea of handing over one's power completely to let somebody win, to believe that you now think less of yourself because they lack the vocabulary to articulate what their grievance really is, that's something i often had it been...