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If youre doing something that the original tagger, the vandal, lets say, did, and now youre using volunteers to paint it out, what has anybody considered the possibility if you dont have police accompaniment to the rehabilitation of that wall, that its very possible that the person that tagged it is not going to want to see it painted out and might behave in an adversarial situation, perhaps danger . Inclusive of the fact that on the other side of the coin is lets say youve got volunteers, youve got kids that work in on the wall. And a possibility of this Hazardous Material affecting them in s...

[speaker not understood]. Hold on a second. Let me come over here so you can restate the first part of your question again if i could get you to stand up and well talk to the San Francisco Police Department here. First part of my question was perhaps more urgent. We represent this table, and over here oakland california. And youre aware of the violent nature in that city. Of course, yeah. What im concerned with is you have do gooders and theyre painting out something that the nortenas have painted and want to stay up there and they dont really observe nighttime hours versus daytime hours. So, ...

If youre doing something that the original tagger, the vandal, lets say, did, and now youre using volunteers to paint it out, what has anybody considered the possibility if you dont have police accompaniment to the rehabilitation of that wall, that its very possible that the person that tagged it is not going to want to see it painted out and might behave in an adversarial situation, perhaps danger . Inclusive of the fact that on the other side of the coin is lets say youve got volunteers, youve got kids that work in on the wall. And a possibility of this Hazardous Material affecting them in s...

They threatened to sue our city when they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not uniq...

In terms of safety i think martin can speak more to the issue of, you know, going into areas where there could be problems. Edmonton overall is pretty safe community. We havent really had any experience with people sort of being there present when were painting over it. So, i cant really speak to that in terms of issues. But the liability issue is pretty well covered. I have a guide thats available on my website that outlines all of our forms and criteria that they go through and the Property Owners are also required to sign off a form giving the volunteer Agency Permission to paint their buil...