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Georgia to get to the black sea. there remains a russian occupation in georgia. we did nothing then. and if we hear david brooks talking about the president using the term manhood problem. do they have a manhood problem when they haven't done enough to sanction part of the g7. a client state of russia refuses to use her influence to helm in. >> i'm not comfortable with that. the last time person that criticized the manhood problem was george herbert walker bush. and weeks later saddam hussein learned that it was anything but. keep those aside. the real question is how fast and how tough to con...

Basically saying i want to overthrow saddam, find me a way to do it, not if, how. >> saddam hussein's past use of chemical and biological weapons and the prospect of him developing a nuclear weapon make him a prime target. as does the liberation of what iraq has under the ground. >> in the first meeting, rumsfeld says, imagine, imagine if iraq was essentially a client state of the united states. imagine how that would look. if they were a friendly state. if we had primacy and access and maybe control of their oil fields. and rumsfeld is pointed about this in the first meeting, in fact, oil fie...

O'neill summed it up, bush basically saying i want to overthrow saddam, find me a way to do it, not if, how. >> saddam hussein's past use of chemical and biological weapons and the prospect of him developing a nuclear weapon make him a prime target. as does the liberation of what iraq has under the ground. >> in the first meeting, rumsfeld says, imagine, imagine if iraq was essentially a client state of the united states. imagine how that would look. if they were a friendly state. if we had primacy and access and maybe control of their oil fields. and rumsfeld is pointed about this in the firs...

Very serious crisis we're confronting with -- in eastern ukraine, and i just wish that the united states were able to speak with one voice rather than using this occasion and this crisis to turn it into yet one more partisan slinging match. >> julia, what do you see as putin's end game here as far as ukraine is concerned? what's he up to? >> i think his ultimate end game is to create a ukraine that never joins nato, that never joins the e.u., that is weak and pliable and, basically, a client state. the question that remains now, putin hasn't decided how he's going to do it. what we see him doi...

Germany, isn't she the biggest linchpin to trying to helm vladimir putin in an international direction that is more palatable because of the fact that germany is such a client state to rusch? -- russia? >> she is and she has the best personal relationship of that g-7 remaining between those leaders and she would have to -- look. if she is okay with doing new sanctions, the rest of the european union is going to go. germany has the dominant economy in the european union and so that is why she is such a linchpin. it does seem as if the more putin sort of dismisses, brushes her off, she is gettin...