Are these patterns protectable and is there an ebb and flow that is natural, that is not caused by man, and man pillaging the earth for profit, which is the premise of what they are really saying here? >> well, the known geological history of the earth, if indeed man is now in control, this would be the first time. it's very interesting to note that previous periods as warm or warmer than what we are in now are referred to as climate optimums. if people go back and look, you see that life progresses better when it's actually a little bit warmer and the cycles go back and forth. >> sean: are we...