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Political campaigns. here, it might be information. that is something that director mueller will want to investigate. another issue, a person who may have even a bigger problem than donald jr., is jared kushner who was copied on these e-mails, who attended this meeting. it seems like it was a pretty big deal, this meeting. they're not -- i can't imagine there were a lot of meetings like this, and it may be that he left off this meeting on the form that he filed to get his security clearance. if that's the case, that is potentially a crime. so, i think jared kushner, who is, of course, a high g...

Acting somewhat with impunity. >> jeff, if in fact the president -- i mean, he's now the president. you know, as candidate, donald trump was informed by his son or somebody else that the russian government wanted him to win, and in this case, you know, that there was a -- what he believed to be a russian government attorney who was going to be coming, does that -- i mean, obviously the president and the white house has denied that the president had any knowledge of this meeting whatsoever until just recently, but if, in fact, his son, at some point, before or after the meeting informed his fat...

The meeting's on june 9 and then the same day, president trump tweets about hillary clinton's 3 3,000 missing e-mails. there's just, not to beat a metaphor into the ground, a lot of smoke and the timeline here, you got to look at the timeline really carefully, given when these e-mails happened and when this meeting happened. >> kirsten, you and i were on the air last night and before these actual e-mails came out and trump surrogates were saying, look, he didn't know who he was meeting with. he didn't know who this person was. that's just not true. i mean, whether or not this person was as adv...

A witch hunt? >> no, not at all. i think that any time another nation, whether russia, china or any nation met els into our election process, our democratic process to preserve our constitutional republican, any time anybody haks into that, that's concern for all of us. i'm all for the investigation going forward. we have three different agencyes. house and senate intelligence committee looking at this. fbi looking at this. and even if director comey has been removed and personally i think he should have left a long time ago. with the mishandling of the clinton information. and rereleasing it ...

There was another time where the wall broke down and they ended up in possession of hillary clinton information and their response to that was to immediately seal it off, to not look at it, to not do anything with it, and to alert the dnc. if this happened on the other side, if hillary clinton at some point, sanders' information fell into their hands and they responded the same way, presumably there would be no need for the dnc to discipline the hillary clinton campaign for that, just as there would be no need for the dnc to discipline the sanders campaign for acting responsibly in the way we ...