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We're going to punch back. that's what this lawsuit is about. we are protecting our democracy. when you go after the right to vote. when did you go after the institution of elections. that is the essence of our democracy. this wasn't simply an attack on the dnc. this was an attack on our democracy. todd: the phrase putin's poodle sounds like a great band's name. they're never going to pay to matter what you do. part two you have a situation where wikileaks is protected by the first amendment. and by the way the collusion aspect, we have a special counsel going on trying to find collusion they ...

Which is anything that congress says. and i think the more evidence you develop that there was in fact collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, the stronger that makes the case for possible impeachment depending on what the -- the special counsel's investigation comes up with. >> robert mueller wants to interview president trump. but as he gets closer to making all the connections between trump's circle and russia, do you think trump will be less inclined to sit down and talk to him, max. >> we just had john dowd quitting because he was frustrated he was telling trump not to talk...

And the president himself even according to our reporting -- seemed to think and actually believed that this investigation may be wrapping up at the end of the year. well, that didn't happen. and now not only is it not wrapping up but the new information that's coming out for example about this meeting suggested there's a very strong thread there in terms of the money, but then also in terms of the collusion aspect. and now that you see you have more and more witnesses potentially cooperating with this white house, how much of the president's temperament is being driven and his decision making...

Anytime we can offer the public insight no what they're investigating, it's significant. in this case, what we're reporting along with carol lee and katy tur, puts a spotlight on the collusion aspect of this investigation. specifically, not necessarily weather senior members of the trump campaign and senior russian government officials were coordinating but the nature of potential intermediaries in helping to facilitate leaks that could prove damaging to clinton campaign. the timeline was critical. in march, podesta's e-mails were hacked. in april, george papadopoulos meeting with the russian ...

Register, conspiracy, tax evasion, all of those laundry list of charges against manafort, gates will be a primary witness now against him. >> all right. so, michael, let's go with this again. this isn't a good thing when they are agreeing with the prosecutor. he was with the campaign much longer than manafort. up until he november i think he was on the campaign plane. the pushback is this is all about manafort. it is not about the campaign. it doesn't show anything about the campaign in collusion with russia. your take? >> i think that's right. within the four corners of the indictment, this d...