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Believers in the collusion case, i count you in that group, there still is no evidence. >> i'm actually in the conspiracy camp because collusion is a nice word but it's a law. it's way too light. let me tell you something, he has bigger issues and as you're seeing in the mueller investigation, they're going after low-hanging fruit right out of the box. with manafort, low-hanging fruit was international money laundering. with flynn, it was this phone conversation. let me tell you, i've done a boatload of wiretaps and that conversation had five points to it. he called them five times that day an...

News and say they got him for lying to the fbi. the thing he lied about isn't collusion. no one gets prosecuted for the logan act. you guys -- you, who are believers in the collusion case, i count you in that group, there still is no evidence. >> i'm actually in the conspiracy camp because collusion is a nice word but it's a law. it's way too light. let me tell you something, he has bigger issues and as you're seeing in the mueller investigation, they're going after low-hanging fruit right out of the box. with manafort, low-hanging fruit was international money laundering. with flynn, it was t...

Time came for a decision about indictment versus impeachment, my trial team was pretty adamant that we should indict the president. >> fascinating. >> and thought that we had grounds for doing it. >> huh. >> but we also had someone saying impeachment is the right method, not indictment. there is now a ken starr memo that says you can indict a sitting president. so it's an open question now whether you could or not indict the president. >> i mean, what's remarkable about this is just that, you know, we were talking about the smoking gun or the bridge, when you're talking about the collusion cas...

Context. when the tame kaem fcame for a decision about indictment versus impeachment, my group thought we should indict is president and thought we had ground for it, but wed leeian saying impeachment is the right method. there is now a ken starr memo saying you could indict a president. >> what's remarkable about this, when you're talking about the collusion case, a lot remains murky about that. a lot are emains murky about what russia did. there might be criminal indictments against russian actors the people that committed the intrusion into the servers. the idea that the collusion case is t...

My trial team was pretty adamant that we should indict the president. >> fascinating. >> and thought that we had grounds for doing it. >> huh. >> but we also had someone saying impeachment is the right method, not indictment. there is now a ken starr memo that says you can indict a sitting president. so it's an open question now whether you could or not indict the president. >> i mean, what's remarkable about this is just that, you know, we were talking about the smoking gun or the bridge, when you're talking about the collusion case, the first order case, a lot remains murky about that and wh...