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Something to hide. it'll be incredibly ironic if there is no ultimately no collusion case and no obstruction case against him. but keep in mind, when you attack relentlessly prosecution teams, they are human. they feel it. they try to be professional to it as much as they try to, they feel it. any toss-ups in that report by mueller and his team, i think they are going to go against the president. they've been putting this up with this for two years. >> laura: guys, thank you so much. up next, ben carson. in exclusive you do not want to miss. he's going to be defending this administration again...

There is no ultimately no collusion case and no obstruction case against him. but keep in mind, when you attack relentlessly prosecution teams, they are human. they feel it. they try to be professional to it as much as they try to, they feel it. any toss-ups in that report by mueller and his team, i think they are going to go against the president.an they've been putting up with this for two years. >> laura: guys, thank you so much. up next, ben carson. an exclusive you do not want to miss. he's going to be defending this administration against the attacks of racism. coming up, ben carson. whe...

Finish, if he doesn't do something major to take out trump, then this was all some sort of desperate pointless fishing ed expedition. >> now on day 561 and desperate for any dirt on donald trump. >> mueller is desperate. he doesn't have a tase cayce he can make. >> the collusion case died. so now they're on to the so-called obstruction of justice case against president trump. >> if there is no evidence of a crime, and if this is all based on some type of counterintelligence investigation in search of a crime, then the special counsel needs to end. . >> there are basically two arguments there, ...

Today agon no collusion. the other day no collusion. there was no collusion. >> to be clear no evidence of collusion was introduced because he was sentenced on entirely different charges. he uses every example to distort the truth and say -- we are going to see i think a collusion case. >> history is written by the victors. it seems history written by the losers. he lost today and trueing to spin to the public this lie of what the judges were saying. even judge ellis unvirginia was clear about the fact that collusion was not present in this matter but that doesn't mean there's no collusion. ev...

Primary purpose of the mueller investigation. that was demonstrating the existence of or the lack of connections between the trump campaign and the russians. manafort has been viewed by mueller as a key link in the investigation because of manafort's extensive contacts with russian sympathizers in ukraine. this is an important document. we'll see hints of where the ultimate mueller report will go. how strong were the russian connections? how strong will the collusion case be ultimately if he launches collusion charges against the campaign. >> nice to have you on the show. thank you both very m...