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Whether or not they get an obstruction case out it. >> the president's sister happens to be a sitting federal judge. that would be interesting. i've looked around the panel. a lot of us have interviewed presidents. you're the only member who interviewed a president in a legal matter. what do you think the chances are of trump versus mueller face-to-face? >> i think that according to what mr. rudy giuliani says they will only let him be interviewed about collusion issue and not about obstruction. i think that's a very wise strategic choice. here is an interesting thing that nobody has commented...

Presidents. you're the only member who interviewed a president in a legal matter. what do you think the chances are of trump versus mueller face-to-face? >> i think that according to what mr. rudy giuliani says they will only let him be interviewed about collusion issue and not about obstruction. i think that's a very wise strategic choice. here is an interesting thing that nobody has commented on. mueller and the president's attorneys have been doing this dance for months now where mueller says i want to interview you and the lawyers have been sayi ining rudy giuliani has be saying only if yo...

Legal matter. what do you think the chances are of trump versus mueller face-to-face? >> i think that according to what mr. rudy giuliani says they will only let him be interviewed about collusion issue and not about obstruction. i think that's a very wise strategic choice. here is an interesting thing that nobody has commented on. mueller and the president's attorneys have been doing this dance for months now where mueller says i want to interview you and the lawyers have been saying rudy giuliani has been saying only if you do this and agree to do that. the question arises, why hasn't bob mu...

Don't know of any evidence about it. and i don't understand why the president is saying it now. one of the things i have been saying for a year and a half, putin is an opportunist. he will make trouble wherever he can. i don't think that means he will support democrats or republicans or anybody else, his job is to sew discord and undermine this country and nato and those kinds of things. so the president's tweet is kind of interesting but i don't think there's any basis for it. >> shouldn't the president be railing against russian meddling in the u.s. elections, irrespective of who putin may w...

Thank you. i want to bring in our cnn legal commentator jim shultz and our national security analyst and former secretary at the department of homeland security. i want to start with this new tweet from the president asking why obama didn't do something about russian election attack. but at the same time, saying it's all a big hoax. james, how can the president continue to defy the unanimous conclusions of his own intelligence agencies? >> i think senator lindsey graham said it accurately this morning in his television interview when he said the president frequently con flats the issue of coll...