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Ensuring that the actual slate of electors made its way to washington, all of that was our effort to defend against these nefarious efforts at every step of the way, to enable congress to potentially overturn the election, which the false electors were trying to enable. so, neal, that scheme couldn t exist without pence doing what trump told us at speeches in georgia ahead of the special election there, what he told us on twitter and what we know through testimony he described even more colorfully with one of his favorite swear worlds on the phone with mike pence. trump sits atop the fake elector plot, because he was the one screaming from the rooftops at people to do it. he was calling people at the state level. i think it was the peak of covid, he was inviting them to the white house, if i remember some of the reporting. i know jack smith is humming along now, but do you think we ll ever understand the delay ....
And do it very well. those of us who cover white houses and travel with the president, we rely on them, too, they re around with us protecting us, as well, though, of course, we re not the priority. but this is unheard of here. but it is something the biden white house was carefully watching, too, and still to this day, a sense of leeriness among some of the agents who are around the president and the first family who are believed to be supporters of donald trump. but this here is a new a new one, certainly, for the agency, and it s one that could lead to some changes, and certainly, while we re talking about mind-set, the other piece of this was kelly anne conway, who spoke yesterday to the january 6th committee and pressed by reporting in my book earlier this summer about how donald trump in the days after the election, suggested to her and to others privately saying, well, i can t believe i lost to this guy. he said it more colorfully than that, meaning joe biden, at the time, it ....
Brand? no. he still is a deadlock right now for the republican nomination any way you look at it. really the only way that i see that donald trump would not be the republican nominee is if there are reasons that take him out that are not of his own volition, meaning legal? legal reasons. or if his health, you know, simply right now he has it in the bag if it s a crowded field. if it s four more people, which it looks like it would be. so doug, it s important to remember that while trump is not on the ballot today, ron desantis is, and i want to play for you what former rnc chair michael steele said kind of colorfully. his take this morning when desantis was called the party s rising star. he s not the rising star in the party. he is the star in the party. wow. he s eclipsed trump in a way that has trump right now sitting on that golden toilet banging his head up against the wall. so doug, if desantis does win ....
Like cipollone who was up there defending him against articles of impeachment. he carried a lot of water for donald trump. does he want to continue to carry that water by not being as forthcoming as he could be? because you can sit in these rooms and say, well, i don t recall that, and you can be somewhat evasive while still sitting there for a few hours. or is he going to tell people what he knows? because if he tells people whoa knows, you ve got to think that it s going to sharpen the case around criminality and this tolerance of violence that you spoke about. it is an interesting, you know, sort of frame of relativity, jackie, you know, do you want to be less helpful than bill barr, who seemed to enjoy yukking it up and invoking the word b.s. over and over again, colorfully, as well as mr. cipollone s own deputy, eric herschmann, who s also been a fulsome storyteller of the vast sort of criminal concerns that the lawyers had. i mean, we already know so much about how concerned th ....
and so in late april 2014, stephen cried uncle. he d make a deal, plead guilty, and confess to murdering his neighbor, lauren giddings. he admitted that he came into her apartment in the middle of the night, that she said something to him, essentially telling him to leave, but colorfully. yeah. and that he attacked her. she fell off the bed as they struggled. her legs ended up under the bed where she couldn t kick him or get out from under it, and that put him at an advantage. stephen said he strangled lauren to death. then dismembered her body, put her torso in the trash bin of the apartment. the other remains in the law school dumpster. over the years, police and volunteers search for countless hours, even dug up a landfill, but never found anything. ....