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we have talked at length on this program about project 2025, the heritage foundation s nightmarish plan to transform the nation into a trump dystopia. the 900 page project would provide trump a maga blueprint for a potential second term. yesterday, my colleagues had the chance to actually sit down with kevin roberts, president of the heritage foundation, and the top architect for press operation 2025. here s how that interview began. you reject the assertion that this is a plan that was cooked up specifically for the second coming of the trump administration? we couldn t do that, because we are nonpartisan. i would have been thrilled if president biden and his team asked for a briefing. setting aside the laughable claim that the conservative think tank would have been thrilled to work with joe biden, route the interview, roberts laid out a series of talking points that made him sound indistinguishable from donald trump. like, say, wanting to remove state departmen ....

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