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The bidens. >> he says -- in part of the call, they say it's going to affect the 2020 election. it just goes on and on. listen, we don't know exactly what they said because part of it was inaudible, but it doesn't really play well for the tone of it for rudy giuliani. so, listen, giuliani told our dana bash that the voicemails are helpful because it shows that they don't do anything dishonest. you know, he also has -- he also says that $200,000 that he needs is for another project in another country, and the project has nothing to do with ukraine or trump. i mean all he would say is that it's,...

Production, the flake show got lousy reviews, lost its backers, and opened and closed in the same day. that's show-biz. joining us now from california, victor davis hansen, from stanford university. and he's the author of the new book "the second world war" how the first global conflict was fought and won. great to see you bdh. the flake show, opened and closed in one day, can you imagine. joseph stalin and the president, take it away. >> yeah, we have -- it's sad, he's become a tragic comic figure. mass murderer of 25 million people, destroyed the russian people, compared to an elected presid...

Production, the flake show got lousy reviews, lost its backers, and opened and closed in the same day. that's show-biz. joining us now from california, victor davis hansen, from stanford university. and he's the author of the new book "the second world war" how the first global conflict was fought and won. great to see you bdh. the flake show, opened and closed in one day, can you imagine. joseph stalin and the president, take it away. >> yeah, we have -- it's sad, he's become a tragic comic figure. mass murderer of 25 million people, destroyed the russian people, compared to an elected presid...

What's their responsibility? >> well, i want to watch -- i know kids watch this show so i won't use certain word, these people are hookers. are you kidding me? they will do anything for money. they will put -- if mother theresa was alive, they would put a reality show with her and turn her into a ridiculous comic figure. they will do anything for money. they will put children on. they will put the kardashians on. three women who don't have an ounce of talent and are famous for being famous. they will put anybody on because this is what people want to watch. people like to watch dysfunctional p...

What's their responsibility? >> well, i want to watch -- i know kids watch this show so i won't use certain word, these people are hookers. are you kidding me? they will do anything for money. they will put -- if mother theresa was alive, they would put a reality show with her and turn her into a ridiculous comic figure. they will do anything for money. they will put children on. they will put the kardashians on. three women who don't have an ounce of talent and are famous for being famous. they will put anybody on because this is what people want to watch. people like to watch dysfunctional p...