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walk a fine line. gaza is a crowded, urban area. i hold hamas just as responsible, if not more than the idf for civilian casualties in gaza because hamas puts their command and control centers underneath refugee camps, underneath hospitals. hamas told palestinian civilians to disobey the order to evacuate that territory. so it's a difficult road to walk, but israel must destroy and degrade hamas. that's their mission. i'm sure they are determined to go about the mission, put they do walk a fine line. >> secretary johnson, your perspective is invaluable this morning. "cnn this morning...

Leave. >> hours after i filmed that interview with that man, dmytro, his wife got a phone call from her mother. it's very hard to get a call in and out of mariupol right now because most of the cell phone networks have been turned down. and the mother was weeping and saying good-bye because she did not think she would survive the night's artillery bombardment. don? >> ivan watson, thank you very much. ana? >> don, we'll check back with you all in a moment. let's talk about the military strategy here and the state of play. u.s. defense officials are telling us the u.s. has been unable to even i...

Speculating negative things about scotland yard and here is how mcmaster responded. >> i think what the president was communicate iing is that is that obviously, all of our law enforcement efforts are focused on this threat from you know, for years. scottland yard has been a leader as our mpi has been a leader, so, i think the if there was a terrorist attack here, god forbid, we would say there were in sight of the fbi. i don't think he meant anything beyond that. i think he means this kind of activity is what we're try iingo preprevent. >> mark, doesn't sound like he knew what to say. >> righ...

Ckworth who is a veteran of iraq and an injured one at that. >> it seems like the president, the command er in chief, is shifting the i think he needs to feel his job as commander in chief. >> that is a key thing her, he is delegating more authority to the commanders on the groung. >> we have seen that in somali and yemen. the best example we saw was the decision to drop the mother of all bombs, that was not walked up the pent gone or tagon or thy or white house. some has to do with troop levels. find the strategy and find the troops that match that strategy. i think what a lot of them would

Command er commander, where is the pentagon? why don't we have communication among the four groups? why is the state department handling what is essentially a military operation at that point and the cia who has all of their people there. >> you hit on something extremely important. because at the end of the day, one of the primary reasons for being in eastern libya has to do with the state department. the operation is one of the largest of the operations in africa and also the middle east. director, when the cia is under attck in libya, may be some place to be found in this. >> well there is ...