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Data the first time its an admonishment and then if its more than once, then the discipline progresses and one officer who refused to collect traffic stop data and stated that in that officers interview with the occ, that that officer did have time to do it, that officer was suspended. Yeah. I understand the progressive discipline we have in place, but i want to i guess id like to hear more information on those comparisons between 2012 and 2013, the first three quarters, cause id like to know the affect to have this, and discuss what we need to do about it, if anything. Yes. And i will provide...

Vice chair terman, i dont know that it is i would have to take a look and compare the first three quarters of 2012 with the first three quarters of 2013 and let you know. It kinda goes up and down and when as i understand chiefs policy and certainly chief antonio can advise, when someone is us stained for failure to collect traffic stop data the first time its an admonishment and then if its more than once, then the discipline progresses and one officer who refused to collect traffic stop data and stated that in that officers interview with the occ, that that officer did have time to do it, th...

Different perspective maybe and in doing so ive researched the Mission Statements and the purposes of the Police Commission, the occ and sfpd cause they are three separate organizations. The commission oversees or whatnot the occ to their determination of their needs. Ive seen budgets for the occ is 4 point something million a year and they are required to have one investigator for every 150 officers employed, so if theyre shy three, ones on medical leave or whatever, thats i dunno if that counts technically or not, but if theyre short three thats in violation of the city charter. I dont know ...

Yes, january 1. Two more this year so we wont meet until the 8th again in the new year. I just wanted to make sure. Time went by fast. You guys can come, i wont be here. Any other comments in reference to items covered. Hello commissioners. Im still preparing an analysis on the information in a different perspective maybe and in doing so ive researched the Mission Statements and the purposes of the Police Commission, the occ and sfpd cause they are three separate organizations. The commission oversees or whatnot the occ to their determination of their needs. Ive seen budgets for the occ is 4 p...

Okay. So we have that inspector . Yes. Okay. We just got the nod from the department. And this brings up a question. Is i dont recall whether the occ, if thats happening. Does that happen in tandem or whether thats separate, the capital, you know, items for the occ. Do you do your requests at the same time of year and same process . For some reason it didnt come up in this whole scheme. The o cc doesnt have a Capital Budget so thats why it didnt come up. So its just a couple of cars essentially. I dont know, maybe that doesnt automobiles dont fall under capital. I dont know, commissioner kings...