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Communications perspective, in addition to the facts the underlying facts and routinely been debunked, no allegations of this to service, from a communications perspective, this is also a really challenging argument. you sort of have a ph.d. in ukrainian energy payments and, you know, how the fbi moves, you know, documents. for the average person to follow this, there is a really easy response for democrats, which this has been debunked by donald trump justice department. >> it's important to note, we have invited the chairman of these committees, people who've been leading these investigation...

Talking point for reporters when they speak to president biden. >> well, i think the best thing democrats can do right now is continue to tell the truth, as they've been doing. also, i think taking these clips that we've seen of republicans literally admitting that they are using the government for their own political tools. and for their own political strategy, and play them for the american people. in hours across the country. people need to see what's being said. and the lies that are being spread. i think it's to just keep telling the truth. really from a communications perspective, taking...

In ads across the country. people need to see what's being said. and the lies that are being spread. i think it's to just keep telling the truth. really from a communications perspective, taking some of these materials and some of these videos that they have publicly, public statements they made, and really making it obvious to people, so they see that the lies that are happening. i think people are going to, people are going to see the truth. they're going to see it when it's right in front of them. >> what do you think danielle, what should democrats do? what should joe biden do? does he spe...

But nothing that felt this impactful. it really felt like a moment where things came full circle. >> looking back over the last two years, of course, hindsight is 2020. from a communications perspective, is there anything you wish was handled differently? >> sure. i wouldn't be candid if i didn't say that there were things i wish we handled differently. there were moments where i wish we had the opportunity to start from scratch, and to explain to people, more clearly, the the reason the president did x, y or z. -- where, i think, the presidents directive from the outset was that we were going...

Find six additional documents. and so when you put that all together, it is the drip, drip, drip of this situation that makes this, did from a communications perspective, a political perspective, that much worse for the president. we still don't know whether it makes it worse for the president from a legal perspective. white house officials, the president's pornal attorneys and the president himself have insisted, as the president said the other day, there is no there there. tebl this investigation bit special counsel will eventually exonerate the president. >> so they say there is no there th...