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Yet we now know he himself received and forwarded an e-mail from donald trump jr. about contact the president's son had with wikileaks. so, what do you make of this? >> well, it's obvious what's going on is the russians stole the documents through computer hacking about hillary clinton and then dumped it into wikileaks. and the people in the trump campaign were collaborating. that much we know. how much the collaborating was, and who exactly it was, robert mueller's going to find out. but everybody on team trump has been denying any contacts with the russians or with wikileaks. repeatedly. and...

White shoe law firm. do you have any way to change what you said to "the new york times" or anything since? >> no, and i would re-emphasize that stachlt. the mueller investigation is being very aggressive. it's very broad in scope. special counsel mueller is focusing on a number of possible federal violations, obstruction of justice, computer hacking, a violation of the computer fraud and abuse act, a violation of the federal election campaign act, a violation of the foreign agent registration act, violations of the irs laws and possibly even money laundering. so it's a very broad investigatio...

>> no, and i would re-emphasize that statement. the mueller investigation is being very aggressive. it's very broad in scope. special counsel mueller is focusing on a number of possible federal violations, obstruction of justice, computer hacking, a violation of the computer fraud and abuse act, a violation of the federal election campaign act, a violation of the foreign agent registration act, violations of the irs laws and possibly even money laundering. so it's a very broad investigation, but it's starting to come into focus. >> michael, talk us through the social media part of this. number...

Times" based on everything we've learned since? >> no, not at all. in fact, i would reemphasize that statement. the mueller investigation is being very aggressive. it's very broad in scope. special counsel mueller is focusing on a number of possible federal violations, obstruction of justice, computer hacking, a violation of the computer fraud and abuse act, a violation of the federal election campaign act, a violation of the foreign agent registration act, violations of the irs laws and possibly even money laundering. so it's a very broad investigation, but it's starting to come into focus. >...

The president tweets sometimes when he's alone. so what you raise is actually a possibility. >> some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that manafort encouraged collusion with the campaign. so while not conclusive, you've got three sources that say that manafort encouraged the russians to help with the campaign. what does that say to you? >> first of all, even if there was mere knowledge by paul manafort that the russians were interfering, then he would probably be violating federal laws against collusion, against computer hacking an...