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Testing. Good morning. My name is josh rogan program im a columnist at the Washington Post. Thank you for joining us this morning for a panel entitled Homeland Security challenges. Very pleased to have a very distinguished panel with us today. Of course, we have the former secretary of Homeland Security, the honorable jeh johnson. We have mr. Frank salufo, the director of the center for cyber and Homeland Security at the George Washington university, my alma mater. We have the congresswoman Kathleen Rice representing the 4th district of new york who was also the ranking democrat on the subcomm...

To say the least. We have terrific people here today for all these questions. Alexander klimburg as i mentioned has really written a book on this called the darkening web turkeys a senior fellow with the Council Cyber statecraft initiative. Is a Program Director at the hague center for strategic studies, an associate fellow at the Austrian Institute european policy. The welcome, alex. Delighted to have you. Ceo of north america, former deputy secretary of the department of Homeland Security and one of the most knowledgeable in the whole arena. And was write at the heart of many of the debates ...

It is a great tester to maturity of the company you want to do business with is do they submit themselves to open hacking . Do they compensate hackers. If a volume and if you find a vulnerability of their product they will pay the hacker which is amazing. It gets hackers oriented the organization that puts that out there feels comfortable. They want to learn more. They have a culture that wants to identify and protect themselves. Any thoughts on the black holes . What is interesting to know my years of technology he will invent something new every five to 10 years and create a of natural holes...

P. M. Eastern on cspan. Now, a discussion on cybersecurity and how the department of Homeland Security is changing to meet new threats. Panelists include leading experts from both government and corporations, followed by remarks from former National Intelligence director dennis blair. This is an hour and a half. [inaudible conversations] all right. Were going to kick start this. I know some are on break, but just given our time crunch, i want to make sure were able to cover enough time for panel to actually share some of their insights and thoughts. This is a bit of a, it coffers a wide range ...

Credit for having a centralized oversight. Clear transparency and accountability about how we are going about it. We are getting positive feedback from industry and improvements we are making in the process. Very open dialogue there with reverse engineering days and other things. Hopefully there is plenty of issues they want to address. We have documentation as they are Going Forward now. New people working two components. Making it easier for everyone to work together. We have to make sure it sticks in the muscle memory and people see the value. To be candid, i found it easier in private indu...