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>> in one of the lines in her opening statement, she writes -- she says this. i believe that those who have information that the congress deems relevant have a legal and moral obligation to provide it. that seems like a slight against john bolton, her former boss, the national security adviser who they want to come and testify. so far he has not done so. >> what we know of john bolton's position -- >> by the way, they're arriving. there you see david holmes. he's getting ready to walk into the hearing room. dr. fiona hill will follow. the photographers will take a lot of pictures. and there sh...

The example we set here of democracy and the rule of law. thank you. >> thank you, mr. holmes. dr. hill. >> thank you, mr. chairman. do i need to adjust the microphone? >> perfect. >> mr. chairman and members of the committee. thank you for inviting me to testify before you today. i have a short opening statement. i appreciate the importance of congress's impeachment inquiry and i am appearing today as a fact witness. as i did during my deposition on october 14th. in order to answer your questions about what i saw, what i did, what i knew, and what i know with regard to the subject of your inq...

Partners. ukrainians and freedom loving people everywhere are watching the example we set here of democracy and the rule of law. thank you. >> thank you m holmes. dr. helm. >> thank you, mr. chairman. do i need to adjust the microphone? >> is thedj microphone on? >> i believe it is now. correct? >> perfect. thank you, again, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, ranking member nunes and members of the committee thank you for inviting me to testify before you today. i have a short opening statement. i appreciatepe the importance o congress's impeachment inquiry and i am appearing today as a fact witness ...

And whether or not it would come to a grinding halt if the president were to shut down the government. could that possibly and feasibly be a tactic of the president to do anything he can to slow this thing down? >> i think it is actually more like the case that he would introduce a shutdown or not really cooperate in terms of funding the government, to create a diversion. so there is an alternative story line that the media can cover, and then congress will have to fix eventually, and to try to draw attention away from the impeachment inquiry. and so that seems to be the logical play that trum...

Six-year term. these are policy suggestions. he says with regard to the investigation that congress should pass a law that would stop the president from -- >> that's an important distinction. >> i think what's important is in jones v clinton, the supreme court said the same thing. they said we're going to give the president protection. we're not going to give the president blanket protection from being sued in a civil case. we'll give him the deference in scheduling and then the court says if the congress deems it appropriate, it may respond with appropriate legislation. so brett kavanaugh is ...