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A -- up until today, a u.s. attorney general being a whipping boy of the president of the united states. that's what he's been treated as. and i was a former career prosecutor for doj. as you enter the building and as you leave, as attorney general, you have people lining the hallways in support. i've been under both bush and obama. and to see somebody like jeff sessions, the attorney general of the united states, have an unceremonious departure is just confounding to most people. i don't agree with his policies and the roll back of the civil rights agenda and the lgbtq issues and consent decr...

Crisis intervention, use of force to name a few things. heather: what do you think about stop and? frisk? he was talking about that on monday. >> the stop and frisk issue is something that's ruled as unconstitutional. with president trump and jeff sessions going in and potentially uprooting the consent decree, i think it could be ma particular. problematic. the reason for consent decrees is to -- is when there's consideration of police misconduct and corruption. you think about cases like john burge who tortured over 200 suspects, him and his team, cost the city of chicago over $100 million. y...

>> the simple fact is we looked into the attempt -- i don't want to get the year wrong, i think it was 2013. the trump administration overruled it. it's misleading once again to say that it's an agreement with the aclu. it is an agreement between the community and the chicago police department. and in places where there are these agreements, they're called consent decrees. in places where they're in place there's far greater -- >> let's get out of the bizarro and back to facts. >> right. >> funding at the department of justice, specifically grants to state and local police departments, have be...

Things, but has been totally reversed by this administration from commuting of sentences, to even questioning the police and the president saying don't be nice to people when you arrest them. >> yes, certainly, i mean, i think what you're seeing when i talk to a lot of activist and folks about the criminal justice area, they are concerned about things like the justice department rolling back some of these consent decrees and not wanting to go after cities and really focus on their policing. and i think what you're seeing here, a heavy concern as to is there going to be some sort of law and ord...

Of blalack of home ownership, a function of lack of investment. you can't look at crime and say how do we send more police in. to confront these crime ridden areas, you must ask the question did they get to that particular point? that speaks to america's policies over the last 398 years. we have to deal with that. i think moving forward, alex, what sarah huckabee just said is a lie. that is, the department of justice can have an impact on what's happening in a local level. this department hs said, jeff sessions, they're going to back off on consent decrees because it's causing morale problems ...