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They might try that and maybe it would have a chance of succeeding. it's very risky for the president to answer any questions, even if he knows he's telling the truth because there's somebody else telling the different truth. that could cause a problem. telling the truth isn't always a perfect -- the charges of perjury or obstruction of justice. >> do we really think though that mueller would accept written questions after everything? after the depth of the investigation? after -- not only has the president said there is no collusion, he has said repeatedly he'd be happy to sit down with muell...

What mueller requires of them, because i don't think the president for all the posturing can avoid this interview unless he is prepared to either take the fifth amendment or say that nixon versus the united states and its progeny do not allow for this and takes this to the supreme court which is a two-year legal battle. >> john dean, as someone who was involved with nixon, is this allowed, do you think? >> well, that's a good question. i think he could put up a good fight and would certainly test the process. i think ultimately it's -- it's going to be mueller's call as to whether he forces th...

Senior, never mind a family member, but senior official inside the campaign apparatus. and on top of that, the crafting of the statement in response to the revelation of this meeting aboard air force one. this is an area that we know mueller is interested in if he ever gets to talk to president trump about this, that this is an area of interest, crafting that response. so in whole meeting has been a center piece of the investigation and a clear political sore spot for the president himself. so having this reemerge, more questions now of course to the president about this, that is not a politic...

But also other questions that are trying to answer the collusion question, right, and some have said the conspiracy question. these leaks, if they are the tip of the iceberg in terms of what the five investigations are undertaking right now, it would seem that then, therefore, these investigations are just growing in scope and in scope and in scope. >> yeah. you're not going to get any disagreement from me on that idea. i mean, they are going to continue to grow. i think one area that we haven't seen as much attention paid to is the interaction between trump and the russian mobsters in new yor...

It was a pinprick. and so if it was in fact supposed to be a deterring effect to preempt any further use of chemical weapons or the kinds of assaults against civilians that bashar al assad was launching, then i think it was a failure. and so we're left with this conundrum. >> and joan, everything steve just said, i was raising friday night on this program. >> i saw. >> and the next day "the washington post" was absolutely outraged that the question could even basked. they did this story, i don't know if it was in the print edition or online saying that i was advancing a conspiracy theory when ...