>> [question inaudible] >> i can't speak to how many victims in the car. >> is there people in every car? >> i can't speak to that. we can -- eight from the exterior of the bridge, of the collapsed area. we're working our way into the pile trying to create holes that we can see. >> what type of information did you get from the construction site manager about who was working where, who was on the bridge, what did they tell you? >> the only thing i speak to, we did get reports there were workers on the bridge. when our units arrived, they had surface rescued they facilitated and two victims that...