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Not yet there. >> it does sort of usher in a conversation about how the rule of law dies. not just when bill barr sticks the sizable thumbs on the scales of justice. it dies when there's an expectation that the removal of that thumb restores it. accountability is what restores it. i wonder what you make of the contempt votes for scavino and navarro. >> i think it's very important that navarro and scavino be held accountable. they are certainly a huge part of what happened on january 6. and i think one of the things that i get depressed about is all of these rabid followers of trump who were eg...

I want to thank my friends and colleagues, mike, chris, and alicia for sitting in this chair and helming these hours last week. and thanks to all of you for letting us into your homes touring these truly extraordinary times. we're so grateful. "the beat with ari melber" starts now. >> welcome back. a lot of work left for you here with a lot of news going on were i know. >> good to see you. i want to welcome you to the beat. this is actually an extraordinary day when it comes to investigations and accountability regarding the ongoing threats to american democracy and specifically the january 6t...

Person inflating their own role or after the fact or what their motivations may be. and that's why the evidence matters. interviews, sources, claims. these are all pieces. but when you reconstruct it at the time, you suddenly learn what was going on. donald trump was involved with what navarro was doing. and that's why today we can show you that the committee is demanding that navarro comply with its lawful subpoena, we've heard that before, but they're citing this very text, saying it's time for him to address his quote role in the attempt to overturn the election. now, meadows went from part...

She has people -- i think i said this to you before, nicolle. it is not as interesting to me who is being subpoenaed and not showing up. >> right. >> what is interesting to me is who is actually participating without getting subpoenaed. and i know -- and some of it has become public, and i'm sure luke could speak to this more, but there are many white house aides, many of them, from the trump era, who are talking to the committee voluntarily because they don't think they did any wrong and they are willing to participate and talk about what they think donald trump did wrong on those days. so th...

Hold. let me show you that. >> look, i think there is a real desire on the part of the attorney general for the most part not to look backward. do i disagree with that? i do disagree with that. and i disagree with it most vehemently when it comes to what i consider even more serious offenses. for example, a taped conversation of donald trump on the phone with brad raffensperger, the secretary of state from georgia, trying to coerce him into fraudulently finding 11,780 votes. because i think so if you or i did that, we would be under indictment by now. >> so, claire, the question is, do you bel...