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volunteering information so we can understand what in the world happened down in that white house. >> so why do you think, nick, he's not? the idea he could have such access and give firsthand accounts of trump's efforts to seize the power of the doj as we heard from one hearing to corrupt it. the idea of the scheme to try to oust the acting attorney general but i suspect to the extent that cipollone is trying to carve out certain areas he doesn't have to talk about, i'm assuming privilege will be a part of this and obviously, he can bend the ear of the president. will that be enough...

Through, his will to live, his will to survive and the good that he's trying to do now. you know, he lives with guilt. he lives with some guilt, the fact he survived is not uncommon but he says he gets reassurances from people there say reason why he's alive and he's hoping to make the best of his life now. he's not sure he's ever going to be able to go inside a classroom again and that's too bad because by all accounts, these children really, really loved him and the future is going to be rough for him and he knows it. it's just his way, a way of describing what happened to him and just this ...

Tactic to change vice president pence's mind on january 6th, he is liable for prosecution, too. so i would think that what is at issue here is he's changed his mind about his commitment to the constitution. i'm not ready to say he's fully on board with that but i think he may be a little afraid that cassidy hutchinson's implication of the testimony not only puts mark meadows in legal jeopardy but pat cipollone, as well. >> the fear is the great motivator. it would not be the first time it happened. we'll certainly see in what comes out and whether there is any investigation criminally as it re...

They ultimately covered them. then opened them up and then moved them off campus. this is going back to the 80's. so this whole thing about covering murals, moving murals, continues. why is this liberal to cover art? you know what it's not covering art. the university said they're going to reproduce them in hd and people will be able to see them. they'll be in proper context >> laura: they had pham threats, i was there in september. i thought they were beautiful. they had palm threats explaining the murals it's not appropriate. i the hope things have changed. they were done in the 1800's, ...