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To curbing north korea's missile program. since 1985, u.s. administrations have tried and bar goes, sanctions, treaties, appeasement. no combination of sticks and carrots has ever worked. why could it be different this time? let's go back to the panel here to discuss it. mike, you want to address a point how things go behind closed doors and how we talk about them as members of the media. i want you to touch imap but i want you to touch on the one end on point that trump made. he basically said you have one shot at this. and this is it. is it bluster or is at the way he feels? >> it's in the c...

>> i would love to see president trump talk about the human rights issues happening in north korea. i was rescued by the american government here for the people living, 25 million people living in north korea. the human rights are violated every day. especially with the religious freedom they do not have right now. >> laura: eht prison camps, devastating torture reported. is it going to be mentioned in the press confere think? how much emphasis will be put on it? >> let me say our concerns as americans for human rights in north korea is not going away. this is a desert. we are at the appetizer...

It's going to be maximum pressure. gordon, i want to play something for you. former chief of staff, cia, dod under obama. all of this is unfolding tonight. history in the making. we will see what happens but still historic. this is his take away. let's watch. >> the spectacle of seeing the american flag along with the korean flag, dprk. it is jarring. it is somewhat disgusting. it's a debasement of the american flag. >> laura: a debasement of the american flag. because we've never had conversations diplomatic or otherwise with regimes or countries who have had human rights violations and even ...

Again, we haven't really seen any firm commitment. of denuclearization.the question does it mean kim jong un is going to give up his entire nuclear arsenal? what is he going to demand and return in terms of the u.s. pulling back, taking down its nuclear umbrella. yes, we don't have nukes on the south korean mainland but we have them in the planes that fly from guam. we have nukes on ships and submarines in the area as part of our nuclear umbrella to protect south korea and japan. a lot of people in the u.s. don't want to do that given up. one thing that concerns me, the opening meeting on came...