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I think this whole ensociety is close to insane. you want to suggest to me that the attorney general has a private meeting with former president clinton on an that paper this phoenix for, i think, 45 minutes and the current sitting president, barack obama, doesn't know about it? excuse me, just take the press coverage. do you think he woke up in the morning and looked at the "new york times" and looked at "the washington post" and didn't call over and say gee, loretta, what were you doing having a secret meeting with the former put of the united states the week that the fbi is going to intervi...

>> i was able to eliminate tom walker. i was able to eliminate john kenlein. >> reporter: so one name they hadn't quite been able to cross off their list seemed more and more important. >> clay starbuck was never eliminated as the suspect. >> reporter: clay starbuck, the ex-husband, and by now they had something else to consider -- a slew of unflattering tidbits from chanin's family. >> he was constantly trying to belittle her and make her feel like she was inanimate. >> i always thought he was a creep. >> reporter: those dental school classmates were eager to pass on a few of the stories chan...

>> barbara was offered two more years of house arrest and eight years of probation. she would avoid trial, but she had to plead guilty to accessory after the fact in david's murder. meaning she acknowledged knowing about the crime but only after it occurred, something she'd always denied. >> you've got to remember i had the option to go to trial and take it. it's just taking a chance for 12 to 14 -- >> other jurors who would hear a story about a control freak who very cleverly manipulated men to it get them to do this awful thing. >> right. they already know what you're there for, so they're a...

That's the core issue, right? so the reality is that you have to be very sensitive to that. and to the extent that you're not sensitive to that and you're making yourself the victim, you have people, if you saw the r. kelly documentary, not crediting everything everyone said. he's presumed innocent until proven guilty. but they had real concerns, and they had very emotional concerns, and it was hard to disconnect from them when they stated their piece in terms of who he was. so if you're going to go out there and you're going to go in front of the cameras and you're going to condition a jury t...

Hannity. let me play you a little part of that. >> i can tell you personally he said to me, at least a dozen times, that he made the decision on the payments and he didn't tell you. >> yeah. >> told me personally. >> he did. and he made the decision. and remember this, he's an attorney. whatever decision he makes, he's supposed to rely on an attorney to make a decision. >> natasha, is what's going on here, he's relying on the my lawyer made me do it defense. >> you know how sean hannity knows that is because sean hannity was a michael cohen as well. that's something that didn't get brought up ...