that everybody would be competent to come to. i m not going to single out any one of them at this point. we need to demonstrate that this party is open, people are welcome to debate it, the issues, and i think that that is good for party, good for the country. you re just back from south carolina where i think he said something to you that was, shall we say, a little different. yes, mr. clyburn is there with his convention bureau hat on trying to invite everybody down to boost the economy, but i talked to him last week for some time, and he is very close to joe biden. what he told me was if joe biden gets in the race, it s a race for second place. now, there is a lot of democrats in south carolina who are less certain about that. there are a lot of democrats in south carolina going back ten years saying this is a hillary clinton state. obama proved he was reliable and