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This has a big enough history such that when governor northam set out and said he wasn't sure why people had a nickname for him called "coon man," this is common for a field of the politics of virginia. >> it has. people undermine politics and politicians, and this is damage that is done by it. if you couple what donald trump has said about women and about hispanics and about the ugliness that so much of what he said -- if you couple that with democrats now being very -- appearing to be very hypocritical and not holding their own party members -- >> harris: do think it's hypocrisy? look at wha...

About how long ago this was. let me ask on the we think about it. >> i think there's a rush to judgment, that is unfair to him. one, he says he wasn't in the picture. two, i think we ought to fairly ask him if he knew the picture was on his page of that yearbook. three, really got to be judged in the context of his whole lif life. >> harris: that's not what you want to ask him, with all due respect, mr. lieberman. want to know how many times he dressed up in bigoted geared to get the nickname, "coon man," which was also on that page. >> melissa: 30 years ago, or whatever it was? >> harris: he ...

That convinced you maybe he should stand? what is troubling is that it made the situation worse, not better. he knowledged he had engaged in some sort of black face in connection to what he had done in terms of this michael jackson interpretation and some familiar areaty with respect to shoe polish and the reason it shouldn't be because it is harder to remove. the whole thing is a sorted situation. if you look at his under graduate yearbook and the name that was given to him, coon man, is deeply offensive as well. we have enough device ifrnein t. >> do you think he appreciates

We saw what happened in the race where they pulled justin fairfax off of the flyers. we saw where he chose trhis fav governor was a slave hoerld and now, we have coon man, black face and moon walks. i'm not judging you off one individual moment. what we're judging is this pattern that has been created and you know, again, it is my hope that at some point, ralph northam is the statesman we all believed he was and does what's best for the commonwealth instead of letting his e ego prevent him from doing what's right. >> you know the man. what about this notion of people evolving. this is somethin...

Terry mcauliffe, said, "do the right thing." nancy pelosi said the same thing and i tweet. what does that mean, exactly? >> ed: first of all, nancy pelosi, when it came to this seem governor's extreme positions on abortion last week, she was ducking questions about it because she didn't want to talk about it. when she talks about principles and doing the right thing, i put that on the table as number one. when he was basically defending infanticide. number two, he never going to place as a politician when you're first applying for, "i am either the guy in blackface or the kkk hood." then overn...