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Sorry, dana. there are two things -- you hear good cop-bad cop. in this case, you have a lot of good cops and a bad cop. you have trump and pence and haley. it's a way to say to the world that we can handle north korea with one hand and do stuff on the other. >> walk and chew gum at the same time. >> it's saying that north korea is a priority, but we have other stuff to deal with. it's a psychological trick, a persuasive trick. >> closing argument, ms. perino. >> i will talk about venezuela then. if the regime in venezuela gets nervous and backs off hurting innocent people, it would not necess...

Of state and the secretary of defense, that it's part of an actual coherent strategy? that it's sort of good cop/bad cop. >> i had hoped that that was a strategy, but i don't think it is. first off, i wouldn't advise the president to be a bad cop. let the general be the bad cop. then the commandser in chief can be a good cop. they're not touting a lot of success that the president and the united nations have had. that's a big deal. even people like me are going to salute president trump for that. ambassador nikki haley at the u.n., secretary tillerson, he had the world community on his side by...

Secretary tillerson, anybody else who's making statements who tries to pull back a bit. >> no, no, no, alex. no, no, no. they need to be on the same page. this is a grievous error that you have secretary tillerson in one error, tai direction, the p going in another direction, nikki haley going in another direction. they need to be on the same page. this is not good cop/bad cop. americans must speak with one voice through their president and his team, period. >> all right, well, democratic congressman denny heck, we were going to do a lot more talking about north korea, but unfortunately i thin...

Good cop-bad cop. in this case, you have a lot of good cops and a bad cop. you have trump and pence and haley. it's a way to say to the world that we can handle north korea with one hand and do stuff on the other. >> walk and chew gum at the same time. >> it's saying that north korea is a priority, but we have other stuff to deal with. it's a psychological trick, a persuasive trick. >> closing argument, ms. perino. >> i will talk about venezuela then. if the regime in venezuela gets nervous and backs off hurting innocent people, it would not necessarily be a bad thing. i don't think for a seco...

Power a president has, i would argue. and you know, i think in will be a debate as to whether there should be perhaps controls on this. and the statements the president's making with all of this illiterative threats and then all of his advisers having sort of the -- the good cop/bad cop routine, i think people would feel a lot more comfortable if they thought this was strategic rather than the president is just doing his thing and they're trying to make up for it. it doesn't feel strategic to me at all. >> the president was asked about what people have seen as mixed messages when he spoke to r...