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>> of course it's a possible turn of events. there are other people in the race that could possibly be the jeb person -- >> who? >> in the trump but -- >> do you think jeb has any competition for the establishment role for the incumbent? >> let me finish the point. >> i think there is a question who will be the outsider but i still think it will be trump but jeb is clearly the inside guy. >> that's why trump and jeb are beating up on each other. trump knows jeb bush is the one person standing between him and the nomination and jeb knows that trump is the one person who is sucking out all the o...