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I mean, he was as mainstream republican, like as you get. and now he's shape shifting just like everybody else. because they see -- i mean, all these jeb people, how can you be a jeb person and then turn into a stooge for donald trump? >> there's a couple of other ambassadors, one of whom i personally know and have seen and spoken to since they assumed the ambassadorship of a major country. and there's an amazing similarity between woody johnson and this other ambassador that i'm referring to and members of congress and the house and senate republicans. they are. he pra fi he petrified of the ...

They will be disappointed. trump is other people's problems. we would be happy to have a two-way race with trump in the end and we have every confidence governor bush would beat him. it's august and david axle rod rehinds everyone it's early in the race. he offered to put it in terms mr. trump can understand telling maureen over the weekend, we're still in the swimsuit competition. it gets harder in the talent rounds. joining me now, washington post columnist and republican strategist john ferry. finally someone has come out with a good line. this is not a swim suite division. what about this ...

>> of course it's a possible turn of events. there are other people in the race that could possibly be the jeb person -- >> who? >> in the trump but -- >> do you think jeb has any competition for the establishment role for the incumbent? >> let me finish the point. >> i think there is a question who will be the outsider but i still think it will be trump but jeb is clearly the inside guy. >> that's why trump and jeb are beating up on each other. trump knows jeb bush is the one person standing between him and the nomination and jeb knows that trump is the one person who is sucking out all the o...