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They want to gamble on somebody new. you heard it tonight. these folks are prepared it gamble on someone you recognize as having no traditional experience. that's part of what makes him attractive to them. because they think the traditional experience means you can't get the job done. >> long-term, is he good or bad for the party? critics will say he's an tree conservative. he has been all over the place. to arrive at where he is now but they say dp the party is about true conservatism and traditional republican, you know, policies, that he doesn't really over the lodge term seem committed to ...

Policy. same with reduction of stop and frisk. 700,000 kids were stopped in 2011, now they're not. >> but opponents come after you. whether it's tea party rallies or the front page of the "new york post," they'll come. is. >> every good progressive should recognize that. they came for barack obama, he got reelected and reelected handily so i think the point here is be resolute, be consistent, be as fast as possible in achieving a core set of early definitional victories that actually reach people's lives. that's what i've learned. >> what is your relationship with the governor like right now? ...

The ripper getting richer and have more power in this country than ever before. that's kind of what bernie would say. i think in some ways that's kind of almost refreshing as a politician. he runs because he has a core set of ideas and values and principles. from his perspective, that's what should be part of public discourse. as a journalist as a historian, i think we need to know the backgrounds of these people and it's fair game and michael's piece is fair game. at "mother jones" we've been doing stories about what bernie was writing about and thinking about in the '70s. his story is great....

Z publicly which is "a, i know i'm out of step with the tea party wing of the party" but so what? i believe in immigration reform, i believe in education reform. they don't like what i think but i am going to be willing to lose the primary as a way to win the general. i'm not going to become ma what mitt romney did people don't believe i actually have any core set of believes. he says he's running about his ideas to the people who are close to him he thinks he can do it by. the way he has the support of his family, i think even his mother at this point. >> there is big must be there and a big ...

Decade is when they ran on conservative ideas based on the tea party grassroots effort in 2010. we can unite the country around conservative ideas. part of what i do in the book is help people see that these ideas will make their life better. they are not political theories. we have got evidence all over the country that they are working. we also have evidence that the big top/down approach only helps the big guys, the big banks, the big unions. and anyone who tells you big government helps the little guy is, frankly, not telling the truth. so i believe we can unite not just the republican par...